Review of Moroni’s America

My book Moroni’s America was released several years ago. By discussing the scriptural basis for what is commonly referred to as the Heartland theory, it sets out one of the multiple working hypotheses for Book of Mormon geography.

The Mormon Book Reviews podcast recently released a review of Moroni’s America that I highly recommend because the reviewer is an evangelical who has a much more objective approach to the topic than our LDS M2C community. I know other non-LDS Christians who say that, if the Book of Mormon is an authentic history, Cumorah has to be in New York if you believe Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery.
Here’s the link:
Everyone who reads this blog should watch, like and share that review.
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Readers here know that I’ve never said, nor do I believe, that Moroni’s America is the correct interpretation. I offered it only because it makes the most sense to me. I’m completely fine with people who disagree. The concept of multiple working hypotheses is the only viable approach to a situation in which we have limited information. That’s why I welcome alternative interpretations, as well as my critics (most of whom misrepresent what I think, but that’s obvious to people who read what I write).
People should make informed decisions. 
When people are unable or unwilling to make informed decisions, they are susceptible to whichever purveyor of theories appeals to them for other reasons. Too often, faithful Latter-day Saints succumb to the CES Letter, Mormon Stories, or other sites that use the ignorance of the Latter-day Saints against them by purporting to show them “the truth.” That appeal works because so many of our LDS scholars–especially the M2C apologists–have heavily censored information that contradicts M2C. 
The worst example, IMO, is Book of Mormon Central, whose very logo announces their closed-minded editorial policy. That policy works on lazy leaners who defer to self-anointed experts–but there are lots of those, especially because Latter-day Saints trust their teachers who, IMO, have violated their fiduciary responsibility toward their students in this area.
The M2C experts who insist on “M2C or bust” the way Book of Mormon Central does are wreaking havoc among Latter-day Saints.
Recently I saw an important tweet:
One of the keys to unlocking the #GoldenAge is losing our childlike, reflexive trust in experts and news reports. We’re getting close.
That applies as well to Book of Mormon studies.
There is a parallel development in the area of environmental science and ethics (a topic I’ve taught for many years). 
An environmental activist recently started her article with this sentence:
What if you’d dedicated most of your life to trying to save the planet, but then you realised that you may have actually—potentially—made things worse?
In that case, the author recognized that by opposing nuclear energy, she had (“potentially”) thwarted the most sound, scientific solution to the problem she thought she was addressing; i.e., climate change. 
Herein lies the rub. The very same groups that claim to fight for the wellbeing of our planet—the NRDC dubs itself “Earth’s best defense”—are pushing for and achieving policies that are actually the opposite to effective climate action. And because they are well established as “green” groups, they get a pass. They don’t get criticised. They get funded. It’s business as usual, for them. …

I shudder to think of the damage this may have done to our planet. Misinformed beliefs have consequences.
The parallel to Book of Mormon issues is obvious: the academics who have pushed M2C since RLDS scholar L.E. Hills first came up with it in the early 1900s don’t realize they have made things worse by promoting the idea that the prophets were wrong about the New York Cumorah.
By now, Book of Mormon Central spends millions of dollars to persuade Latter-day Saints (and the world at large) that the prophets (including Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery) were wrong about Cumorah. These scholars and their followers teach LDS students in CES and BYU that the prophets were wrong. 
It’s easy to see how this line of reasoning makes things worse.
Those who engage in discussions about Book of Mormon geography quickly come to realize that those who believe the M2C scholars usually are uninformed about the teachings of the prophets about the New York Cumorah, the external evidence that supports and corroborates those teachings, and the way the text of the Book of Mormon describes North America. Consequently, most M2C believers can’t make informed choices. The M2C citation cartel keeps their readers ignorant by censoring alternative evidence and interpretations. 
By contrast, those who accept the Heartland/Moroni’s America model are fully aware of the M2C arguments and evidence. On this blog, for example, we frequently refer readers directly to Book of Mormon Central and other members of the M2C citation cartel. We want people to have all the information so they can make informed decisions.
We encourage people to become engaged learners instead of lazy learners.
And, let me repeat, we’re fine with people choosing to reject the teachings of the prophets about the New York Cumorah. 
There are all kinds of ways that faithful, dedicated Latter-day Saints can rationalize that decision. What one chooses to believe about Cumorah has no bearing on one’s devotion to Christ, one’s activity in the Church, one’s faith and testimony, etc. 
But if our belief is based on ignorance, we are vulnerable when we eventually discover that ignorance–especially when that ignorance was deliberately orchestrated by people we respect, such as the M2C scholars at Book of Mormon Central and the rest of the M2C citation cartel.*
Related to that, I posted a video on youtube over 4 years ago that a lot of people have watched. It’s called scholars vs prophets. One of these days I’ll update it, but it’s a good introduction to the information that most M2C believers have never seen before.
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*I repeatedly emphasize that I like and respect the scholars at Book of Mormon Central. They are wonderful Latter-day Saints, faithful, devoted, sincere, smart, etc. All I ask is that they offer multiple working hypotheses (and replace their M2C logo). For many years, I’ve tried to work with them, but they are completely intransigent. (For example, years ago I gave them my book Letter VII to publish for free on their site, which they did until it got too many views, so they removed it.) Their logo reflects their psychology: they are so deeply invested after decades of teaching M2C that they “cannot unsee” Mesoamerica when they interpret the Book of Mormon. 
It’s a psychological barrier that I don’t understand because I’m not an academic and neither my livelihood nor my self-image depend on protecting my theories. I suspect they are deeply entrenched because they recognize the problems with their approach and the weaknesses of their theories, but whether they recognize that, I can’t say.   
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People like the side-by-side comparisons I post from time to time. Here’s one comparing some aspects of Moroni’s America/1 Cumorah (MA1C) to the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs (M2C) model. Obviously, it’s an abbreviated version.

 

MA1C

M2C

Basic assumption

Prophets have been correct about NY Cumorah

Prophets have been wrong about NY Cumorah

Secondary assumption

JS and OC visited the repository in Cumorah and interacted with Moroni and Nephi (the messenger who took the plates from Harmony to Cumorah)

JS wrote or edited the anonymous editorials in the 1842 Times and Seasons

Key drivers of geography

Teachings of JS and OC that Cumorah is in New York, plains of the Nephites are in the American Midwest, and the Indians of Northeastern US are the Lamanites (e.g., D&C 28, 30, 32), plus scholarly interpretations of the text (e.g., lots of possible “narrow necks” according to common usage)

Anonymous editorials in the 1842 Times and Seasons that claimed ruins in Central America were left by the Nephites, so New York is too far away for Cumorah, plus scholarly interpretations of the text (e.g., “narrow neck of land” must be in Mesoamerica)

Counter point

JS didn’t write or edit anonymous editorials in the 1842 Times and Seasons, but even if he did, they didn’t mention Cumorah and referred to ruins that post-dated Book of Mormon times. Plus, in the Wentworth letter JS rejected Orson Pratt’s hemispheric theory.

Joseph and Oliver claimed no revelation on these topics and misled the Church by speculating about the geography, but by 1842 JS changed his mind and deferred to scholars. The Wentworth letter embraces the hemispheric theory because “country” means “hemisphere.”

Cumorah match

The NY Cumorah fits the text and external evidence once we recognize that “ten thousand” is a military unit, not a literal count, and only two units were visible from Cumorah

The NY Cumorah does not fit the text and external evidence because there must be evidence of at least 210,000 dead Nephites plus equivalent Lamanites

Anthropology

Jaredites = Adena

Nephites = Hopewell

Jaredites = Olmec

Nephites = Mayans

Population-Jaredites

(Ether 15:2)

“two millions” refers to total war deaths in Jaredite history

“two millions” refers to war deaths at or near Cumorah

Population-Nephites/Lamanites

Numbered in tens of thousands; largest single army was 42,000

(Mormon 2:9)

Numbered in the millions; largest single army was 210,000

(Mormon 6)

Writing

No writing would survive because Lamanites sought to destroy Nephite records from Enos through Moroni. One carved stone (from Coriantumr) was so unusual it was described in an otherwise brief record (Omni).

Extensive written language should exist because Nephites and Lamanites corresponded in writing. One carved stone (from Coriantumr) was just an example of stella found throughout Mesoamerica (Omni).

Meaning of “head of the river”

Confluence (where Mississippi River meets Ohio River)

Source (highlands of Guatemala)

City of Zarahemla on Sidon

Sidon = Mississippi

Sidon = Usumacinta

Text requires a north-flowing river from land of Nephi to land of Zarahemla

Tennessee river (north from land of Nephi (Tennessee) to land of Zarahemla (Illinois);

Assumes a separate river from Sidon, which it meets at the head of Sidon (confluence).

Usumacinta (north from Guatemala to Gulf of Mexico);

Assumes only one river.

Source: About Central America

Memorial Day 2021

Readers from outside the United States may not know that today, May 31, 2021, is celebrated as Memorial Day in the United States. For more information, here’s a useful site:

Along with millions of my fellow American citizens, I served in the U.S. military, as did my brother and father, grandfather, and so on. Memorial Day is one of the most important observances we can have.
On Memorial Day, I think of the words of captain Moroni when he explained his objectives:
I seek not for power, but to pull it down. I seek not for honor of the world, but for the glory of my God, and the freedom and welfare of my country.
(Alma 60:36)

Source: About Central America

Witnesses movie and M2C

The Interpreter Foundation is promoting its Witnesses movie. 

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2021/05/tickets-to-witnesses-are-available-now-for-34-theaters-in-several-states.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Latter-day+Saint&utm_content=366 

The movie has its own website.

https://witnessesofthebookofmormon.org/

Such a film could have presented a complete, historically accurate account of the witnesses and what they said, which would be awesome. 

I haven’t seen the film yet, but people who have tell me it’s another affirmation of the latest intellectual fads from the M2C and SITH citation cartels, which means important testimony from the Three Witnesses is omitted because it contradicts M2C, while statements about SITH are emphasized.

I’m withholding judgment until I see the film. 

One of the things to look for is the treatment of the encounter David Whitmer had with the messenger who was taking the abridged plates from Harmony (where he had received them from Joseph) to Cumorah. 

Surely the filmmakers will not omit this event, which involved David, Oliver and Joseph.

The memory was vivid for David because it was the first time he had heard the word “Cumorah.” It’s an important event because it demonstrated (i) the reality of the plates, the shape of which David could see in the man’s backpack, (ii) the reality of the 3 Nephites, (iii) the reality of Cumorah as an actual site in New York and not an imaginary mythical location, (iv) the reality that Joseph was actually translating plates and not merely dictating words from a vision in a hat.

According to David, the same messenger later showed plates to Mary Whitmer.

To their credit, the filmmakers include some of the accounts of the event on their web page.

But, not surprisingly, they focus on Mary’s grandson’s hearsay reframing of the account instead of what David said.

The Moroni/Mary Whitmer story has received a lot of attention because it’s related in the Saints book. But frequent repetition doesn’t make something true.

Don’t take my word for any of this. I’m just reporting what the historical accounts show. They are available for anyone to read. 

It’s a lot of fun to see the way our famous LDS intellectuals manipulate historical evidence. Normally, we would accept direct testimony (from David Whitmer) over hearsay testimony (from Mary Whitmer’s grandson). Even if we accept hearsay testimony from Mary Whitmer’s grandson about what his grandmother said, we would not accept his assumption that his grandmother was wrong, or that she actually meant to refer to Moroni when she referred to the messenger Brother Nephi.

But M2C relies on the premise that Cumorah cannot be in New York. David’s direct testimony contradicts M2C, so the grandson’s assumption that his grandmother was wrong is what our LDS scholars teach instead.

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The website promotes the fake Moroni/Mary Whitmer story. (click to enlarge)

https://witnessesofthebookofmormon.org/other-witnesses/mary-musselman-whitmer/

Fortunately, as you see from the graphic, they include the quotation from Mary’s grandson in which he explains that he was the one who created the fake Moroni story by assuming that his grandmother, Mary Whitmer, was wrong.

David Whitmer explained that Joseph Smith told him that the messenger was one of the Three Nephites. That explains why he identified himself to Mary Whitmer as “Brother Nephi.” We don’t know the names of the Three Nephites (3 Nephi 28), but they were chosen from among the twelve disciples, the leader of whom was named Nephi.

This also makes sense because this messenger was anyone but the resurrected Moroni. David met both people face-to-face and spoke with each of them. He made a clear distinction between the two. He explained that the messenger who took the abridged plates to Cumorah and showed plates to Mary Whitmer was the same person. 

Moroni was a different person altogether.

The movie’s website includes some of the accounts:

https://witnessesofthebookofmormon.org/other-witnesses/mary-musselman-whitmer/statements/#content-faq-0

David asked him to ride and he replied I am going across to the hill Comorah. Soon after they passed they felt strangely & Stoped, but could See nothing of him all arround was clear & they asked the Lord about it he Said the Prophet Looked as White as a Sheet & Said that it was one of the Nephites & that he had the Plates.

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that they asked the Prophet to enquire of the Lord who this stranger was. Soon David said they turned around & Joseph looked pale almost transparent & said that was one of the Nephites and he had the plates of the Book of Mormon in the knapsack—

After their arival home the[y] felt the influence of this same personage around them for he said thare was a Heavenly feeling with this Nephite.

Mother Whitmer said and told them that she had see[n] this same man the Nephite & he showed her the Plates and that a portion of them were Sealed together. This was a great privalige to her but She was good to Joseph the Prophet and here was her reward.

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Joseph asked the Lord who this mysterious stranger was, who said it was one of the 3 Nephites, with the Plates.

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All felt very strange concerning this personage and the Prophet was besought to inquire of the Lord concerning him. Shortly afterwards, David relates, the Prophet looked very white but with a heavenly appearance and said their visitor was one of the three Nephites to whom the Savior gave the promise of life on earth until He should come in power. After arriving home, David again saw this personage, and Mother Whitmer, who was very kind to Joseph Smith, is said to have seen not only this Nephite,

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1889-the story changes as published in the Juvenile Instructor 24, no. 1, 1 January 1889, 22

David said that they felt a very strange feeling come over them, and Joseph, the Prophet, inquired of the Lord concerning it, and then said to the brethren that the mysterious stranger was Moroni with the plates of gold.

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1918, anonymous typewritten account attributed to Joseph F. Smith

Then he demanded, “What does it mean?” Joseph informed him that the man was Moroni, and that the bundle on his back contained plates which Joseph had delivered to him before they departed from Harmony, Susquehanna County, and that he was taking them for safety, and would return them when he (Joseph) reached father Whitmer’s home….

David said that when she  [his mother Mary] came back she was full of joy. He did not know the reason for her rejoicing until she said, “I have seen the messenger.” David said she described the very man they saw walking on the prairies and he told her who he was; said that Joseph had come there for safety and he was in their care and protection.

[Note: Mary never identified him as Moroni, but instead as “Brother Nephi.” We’re told to believe Moroni misled Mary by identifying himself as “Brother Nephi.”]

Zina Young remembered the account because David Whitmer, with his companion Hyrum Smith, were the missionaries who converted her family. She asked Stevenson to ask David Whitmer about it, as discussed here. http://www.lettervii.com/2019/09/david-whitmer-and-cumorah-messenger.html

On another occasion, Joseph Smith identified the “old man” as one of the Nephites as well.

The website also includes David Whitmer’s explanations that the person who showed his mother the plates was the same messenger who took the abridged plates from Harmony back to Cumorah.

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By now, we would expect these M2C intellectuals to at least acknowledge the actual history. Maybe they would also recognize the doctrinal complication of teaching that a resurrected being, in this case Moroni, could and would change his physical body from a glorious figure taller than average (Joseph was 6’2″) to a 5’8″ heavyset old man with a long beard and wool suit.

Why does the M2C citation cartel members continue to promote the fake Moroni/Mary Whitmer story?

It’s simple. 

M2C trumps everything else.

They absolutely cannot allow Church members to learn that, before leaving Harmony, Joseph Smith gave the abridged plates to one of the Three Nephites, that this Nephite took the abridged plates back to Cumorah, and that the same Nephite brought the plates of Nephi (D&C 10) to Fayette for Joseph to translate them there.

That would mean the repository was really in the “hill in New York” as Oliver Cowdery said it was.  

Which would mean the Hill Cumorah of Mormon 6:6 really is in western New York, as the prophets have consistently and persistently taught.

Which would mean M2C (the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory) is a hoax perpetrated by a handful of LDS scholars who stole the idea from L.E. Hills, who developed the theory in response to criticism of the Book of Mormon that was based on ignorant anthropology.

Which would mean the M2C citation cartel has not only repudiated the teachings of the prophets but has misled generations of LDS students.

Source: About Central America

The only way out is through progress

“The only way out is through progress.” @naval

The debate over the historicity and geography of the Book of Mormon persists partly because people don’t have all the facts. Actually, fewer and fewer Latter-day Saints even know what the prophets have taught about Cumorah and the translation of the Book of Mormon. 

Progress in this case would come with full and complete disclosure of all the historical facts related to Book of Mormon historicity.

While it’s true that facts don’t matter, in the sense that people interpret the facts to align with their biases (confirmation bias), unity and agreement has no chance when people are not even dealing with the same facts. Fact silos are great for confirming biases, but they erect barriers to greater understanding, unity and harmony.

There is always room for various interpretations of the facts. The concept of multiple working hypotheses eliminates confusion and contention by clarifying that differences of opinion are not based on different, or incomplete, facts. 

Until everyone agrees at least on the objective facts, including the full historical record, there is no viable path out of the confusion that currently exists. 

This is why the Saints book, which omits key elements of Church history to accommodate M2C and SITH, is problematic. By keeping readers ignorant, the Saints book leaves members confused when they learn what the prophets have actually taught. 

At a minimum, everyone should be familiar with the facts included in this list.

http://www.lettervii.com/p/byu-packet-on-cumorah.html

When everyone knows these facts, we can assess how various people deal with these facts. Some accept them; others dispute their meaning; others dispute their credibility, reliability, etc. That’s all fair game in analysis of any historical accounts.

Steven Harper, the current editor of BYU Studies, has observed that “Some people are under the impression that it’s the facts of the matter that turn the tide. No, it isn’t…. Everybody invested in this knows the facts…. It’s not that one of us knows the evidence better than the other. It’s that we just make different choices about what the evidence means.”

http://www.ldshistoricalnarratives.com/2021/05/harper-vs-vogel-on-historians-biases.html

Ironically, Harper was one of the main contributors to the Saints book. He knows better than most how Saints creates a false historical narrative present regarding the beliefs of Joseph’s contemporaries regarding both the New York Cumorah and the translation with the Urim and Thummim. 

https://saintsreview.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-historians-explain-censorship-in.html

I continue to hope that the Saints book will be revised to accurately reflect Church history on these topics so the Latter-day Saints can make informed decisions.

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Some people quote the Gospel Topics Essays and entries as if they were scripture. These anonymous essays offer information for consideration and discussion. Unlike the scriptures and the official teachings of the prophets, these essays have been revised in the past and are still subject to revision at any time without notice. 

The Gospel Topics Essay on Book of Mormon translation doesn’t even quote what Joseph and Oliver said about the Urim and Thummim. 

The Gospel Topics entry on Book of Mormon Geography doesn’t even refer to, let alone quote, what the prophets have taught about Cumorah. 

In his book “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds,” Charles Mackay wrote: “of all the offspring of Time, Error is the most ancient, and is so old and familiar an acquaintance, that Truth, when discovered, comes upon most of us like an intruder, and meets the intruder’s welcome.”

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There is plenty of room for optimism, however. Eventually the right thing will happen. Despite the omissions in the Saints book, people have access to the teachings of the prophets in the Joseph Smith Papers, the General Conference reports, and in various books, articles, etc.

I like this explanation from Naval.

Pessimism is an easy trap to fall into, but it implies that humans are not creative. Pessimism doesn’t acknowledge all the ways that we have innovated our way out of previous traps.

Entrepreneurs are inherently optimistic because they get rewarded for being optimistic. As you were saying, intellectuals get rewarded for being pessimistic. So there is incentive bias.

If you’re a pessimist, you get your feedback from other people. It’s a social act. You’re convincing other people of your pessimism. But entrepreneurs get feedback from nature and free markets, which I believe are much more realistic feedback mechanisms.

So far, most of the pessimistic predictions have turned out to be false. If you look at the timelines on which the world was supposed to end or environmental catastrophes were supposed to happen, they’ve been quite wrong.

https://stanfordreview.org/scott-atlas-the-last-word/

Source: Book of Mormon Concensus

Bottom line on M2C

I continue to write occasionally about the New York Cumorah because it is apparent how deeply the rejection of the New York Cumorah has affected the perception and even the interpretation of the Book of Mormon. 

Half of LDS millennials no longer believe the Book of Mormon is an authentic history, and that number continues to decline as they are taught M2C by CES and BYU. That seems inevitable, doesn’t it?

The issue certainly isn’t worth arguing about, but it is worth learning about because, as President Nelson has taught, “good inspiration us based upon good information.” 

Most discussions about Cumorah involve the difference between lazy and engaged learners. A lot of people are lazily deferring to scholars who promote their own theories, backed up by their credentials. But credentials are meaningless when we’re dealing with the scriptures and the teachings of the prophets.

We can’t make informed decisions in ignorance. I know from my own experience because I accepted M2C for decades, despite thinking I had been fully informed and had diligently examined the evidence. But then I learned that trusting the scholars was a huge mistake because they were pushing their own theories and deliberately changing narratives to match what they wanted people to believe. I’ve shown several examples on this blog, and I see more all the time.

I didn’t know what I didn’t know–and what I learned changed my mind. Now I accept the teachings of the prophets about Cumorah, which are supported by the text and the external evidence.

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As I’ve been working on my book on apologetics, people send me new material daily. It is been fascinating to see how committed people are to M2C (the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory). Both pro- and anti-LDS authors simply assume M2C and debate from that assumption. 

One thing FairLDS and CESLetter, Book of Mormon Central and MormonStories, BYU faculty and MormonThink, etc., share is their devotion to M2C.

Both sides embrace M2C because it suits their respective agendas, both sides use logical fallacies to support their positions, and both sides resist alternative explanations–especially the New York Cumorah. 

But as Latter-day Saints, we should not ignore the plain reality about this topic. 

The bottom line: M2C proponents reject the teachings of the prophets about Cumorah.

And that’s fine. Everyone can believe whatever they want. 

But they must own their position, and they should do it openly.

As readers here know, I’ve long supported the approach of multiple working hypotheses, meaning there are lots of ways to interpret the evidence and the teachings of the prophets.

However, there is one point that everyone should be able to agree upon (because it’s a matter of public record): the teaching about the New York Cumorah has been consistent, persistent, and unambiguous. 

Certainly, many scholars have cast doubt on the New York Cumorah because it doesn’t fit their various theories on other Book of Mormon locations or their own interpretations of the text. But their objections don’t change the well-established record of prophetic teachings.

So far as I know, no prophet (including members of the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve) has ever expressly repudiated the teachings of his predecessors about the New York Cumorah.* 

If the modern prophets ever do repudiate the prior teachings, like other faithful Latter-day Saints I’d be happy to go along based on the principle of continuing revelation.

Some people claim that the anonymous Gospel Topics entry on Book of Mormon Geography constitutes a rejection of the teachings of the prophets about Cumorah, but the essay doesn’t even mention Cumorah. Instead, the entry leaves the issue open for individual study and interpretation.

Which leads us right back to the basic principle that everyone can decide whether to follow the scholars or the prophets. 

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M2C proponents rationalize their position in various ways. People can accept these rationalizations, no problem, but here I offer my response.

– Some say the prophets never taught the New York Cumorah, despite the well-established record in the Joseph Smith Papers, General Conference reports, and various books and articles. That’s just denial. Accepting this rationale is lazy learning.

– Some say the prophets were wrong because an unknown person in the early days of the Church started a false tradition. The historical record includes Lucy Mack Smith’s recollection that Moroni identified the hill as Cumorah the first night he met Joseph Smith. That is corroborated by subsequent accounts by other people, including all three witnesses of the Book of Mormon, Parley P. Pratt, and other contemporaries of Joseph Smith. M2C proponents rationalize this evidence away, but anyone who is unaware of all the evidence is a lazy learner.

– Some say Oliver Cowdery never claimed revelation when he wrote Letter VII. But he also never claimed revelation when he described the visit of John the Baptist, the translation of the Book of Mormon, or other events. He simply reported what happened. Having visited the repository of Nephite records in the Hill Cumorah, how could Oliver not say it was a fact that the Cumorah of Mormon 6:6 was the same hill in New York where Joseph found the plates? The factual nature of Oliver’s report, coming as it did to refute claims the Book of Mormon was fiction, makes it more, not less, credible. 

– Some say Joseph Smith adopted a false tradition of the New York Cumorah by having Letter VII copied into his own history, having it republished in Church newspapers, and referencing it in D&C 128:20. But the evidence shows Joseph was the source of the New York Cumorah, not the ignorant adopter of a false tradition. The claim that Joseph adopted false traditions created by others has obvious other implications, which is why unbelievers use M2C as much as the M2C citation cartel does.

– Some say all the prophets and apostles who subsequently reiterated the New York Cumorah were expressing their private opinions and were wrong. This includes members of the First Presidency speaking in General Conference. The Church has explained that “Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole Church.” First, Oliver expressly declared it as a fact, not an opinion, as did his contemporaries and successors. Second, this was not a matter of doctrine but of history. Third, this was not a case of a single statement by a single leader, but a deliberate, unambiguous and persistent teaching by many Church leaders over many generations. By contrast, those who repudiate the New York Cumorah typically cite unofficial, second-hand statements by individual Church leaders that are expressly not binding.

– Some say the New York Cumorah must be false because of anonymous articles in the 1842 Times and Seasons, attributed to Joseph Smith, which claimed Mayan ruins in Central America were left by the Nephites. But those articles said nothing about Cumorah. Letter VII was published both before and after those articles, in both cases by Joseph’s brothers. There is plenty of evidence that Joseph didn’t write or endorse the articles in the first place. And the ruins in question post-dated Book of Mormon events anyway. Even some people who accept the articles as authoritative nevertheless accept the New York Cumorah. 

– Some say the New York Cumorah doesn’t fit the text because the text doesn’t mention snow, there are no volcanoes in western New York, New York is too far from the narrow neck of land, there is no evidence of an ancient civilization of millions of people in New York, and there is no evidence of a battle involving hundreds of thousands of people at the New York site. Each of these objections is based on an assumption generated by M2C. 

The text doesn’t mention snow (except to describe white), but it doesn’t mention jungles, jaguars, jade, or other elements of ancient life in Mesoamerica. The New Testament also doesn’t mention snow (except to describe white), but it snows in Biblical sites. 

There are no volcanoes in New York, but there are also no volcanoes in the Book of Mormon. Some people read volcanoes into the text, but the events actually described in the text match real-world events in North America consistent with the New York Cumorah.

Some people assume the “narrow neck of land” must be an isthmus in Panama or somewhere in Mesoamerica, but there are innumerable geographical features referred to in English publications as a “neck of land,” “narrow neck of land,” and “small neck of land.” Such features are consistent with the New York Cumorah.

There is no evidence of an ancient civilization of millions of people in New York, but there is no evidence of millions of Nephites/Lamanites in the text as a whole, and not even a suggestion that they all lived near Cumorah anyway. Regarding the Jaredites, long before the battle and Cumorah Coriantumr reflected on the loss of “two millions of his people” but he didn’t indicate over what time period. This could have been throughout his lifetime or throughout their recorded history going back to Jared (33+ generations), in which case the population would be consistent with the archaeological evidence.  

There is no evidence of a battle involving hundreds of thousands of people at the New York site but the text does not require that in the first place. The Nephites reached Cumorah only after decades of war and fleeing their enemies. Their largest enumerated army, after Mormon gathered in his people, was 42,000. Mormon and Moroni could see only their respective “ten thousand” from the top of Cumorah, but “ten thousand” is a universal term for a military unit, not a precise number. Oliver explained that only “tens of thousands” died at Cumorah, including Nephites and Lamanites. That’s consistent with other battles in antiquity, some of which have still not been located by archaeologists. Yet Heber C. Kimball reported seeing the embankments at Cumorah and people finding ancient weapons all around the area.

 

Obviously, this is a brief summary, but there continues to be enough interest in this topic that I thought such as summary would be useful.

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*FairLDS has tried to cast doubt on those teachings with various informal, out-of-context references, a point I’ve addressed specifically and repeatedly on this blog. Just search this blog for whatever quote they offer.

Source: About Central America

Second interview with Mormon Book Reviews

A thought for the day from twitter:

Don’t worry about others when aiming to be a better person. Either they will be inspired to do better themselves or they will do what they’ve always done. Simply make sure you understand human nature and how to mitigate/protect yourself from it.

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The second part of my interview with Mormon Book Reviews has been released. This one introduces my upcoming book, Infinite Goodness.

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hHY6oNM_ck

Source: About Central America

Article from the Times and Seasons, Vol. 6, 20:1076

Sunday, June 1st, 1834, We had preaching, and many of the inhabitants of the town came to hear. Elder John Carter, who had formerly been a Baptist preacher, spoke in the morning, and was followed by four other Elders in the course of the day all of whom had formerly been preachers for different denominations.—  

When the inhabitants heard these elders they appeared much interested, and were very desirous to know who we were, and we told them one had been a Baptist preacher, and one a Campbellite; one a Reformed Methodist, and another a Restorationer, &c. 

During the day many questions were asked but no one could learn our names, profession, business or destination, and, although they suspected we were Mormons they were very civil. Our enemies had threatened that we should not cross the Illinois river, but on Monday the 2nd we were ferried over without any difficulty. The ferryman counted and declared there were five hundred of us; yet our true number was only about one hundred and fifty. Our company had been increased since our departure from Kirtland, by volunteers from different branches of the church through which we had passed. 

We encamped on the bank of the river until Tuesday the 3rd during our travels we visited several of the mounds which had been thrown up be the ancient inhabitants of this county, Nephites, Lamanites, &c., and this morning I went up on a high mound, near the river, accompanied by the brethren. From this mound we could overlook the tops of the trees and view the prairie on each side of the river as far as our vision could extend, and the scenery was truly delightful.

On the top of the mound were stones which presented the appearance of three alters having been erected one above the other, according to ancient order; and human bones were strown over the surface of the ground. 

The brethren procured a shovel and hoe, and removing the earth to the depth of about one foot discovered skeleton of a man, almost entire, and between his ribs was a Lamanitish arrow, which evidently produced his death, Elder Brigham Young retained the arrow and the brethren carried some pieces of the skeleton to Clay county. 

The contemplation of the scenery before us produced peculiar sensations in our bosoms; and the visions of the past being opened to my understanding by the spirit of the Almighty I discovered that the person whose skeleton was before us, was a white Lamanite, a large thick set man, and a man of God. He was a warrior and chieftain under the great prophet Omandagus, who was know from the hill Cumorah, or Eastern sea, to the Rocky Mountains. His name was Zelph. The curse was taken from him or at least, in part; one of his thigh bones was broken, by a stone flung from a sling, while in battle, by the arrow found among his ribs, during the last great struggle of the Lamanites and Nephites.

(Times and Seasons VI.20:1076 ¶4–5)

(click to enlarge)

Source: Letter VII

Inertia and Book of Mormon historicity

Recently on this blog we discussed the importance of having an open mind and adapting to new developments, incorporating new ideas, etc.

President Nelson has told us as Latter-day Saints to become “engaged learners” instead of “lazy learners.” 

A “lazy learner” is one who defers to others instead of making informed decisions. Their opinions and beliefs are assigned to them by others. By contrast, an “engaged learner” makes informed decisions by studying and evaluating the evidence “by study and by faith.”

Given the topic of this blog, it’s easy to see how anyone who accepts the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory (M2C) just because that is what they’ve been taught is a lazy learner. And that’s fine, if they’re satisfied with that. No one can study everything.

There are also engaged learners who accept M2C. They make informed decisions. One of those decisions is to reject the teachings of the prophets about the New York Cumorah.* Again, that’s fine. People can believe whatever they want.

In my experience, though, both interpersonal and in reviewing the materials produced by the M2C citation cartel, most believers in M2C not only don’t know what the prophets have taught, but they don’t know about the abundant extrinsic evidence that corroborates those teachings.

It’s a fascinating issue because our ability, as Latter-day Saints, to be engaged learners instead of lazy learners has far-reaching implications.

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Another way to look at the difference between “lazy learners” and “engaged learners” is something the physicist Richard Feynman said years ago.

The problem is not people being uneducated.

The problem is that people are educated just enough to believe what they have been taught, and not educated enough to question anything from what they have been taught.

Because of information overload in the modern world and the prevalence of fake news from all sides, most people simply accept whatever they’re taught. We don’t have enough time, energy, or expertise to question everything. We decide which news silo to accept and stick with it.

Plus, people can and will believe whatever they want anyway. Facts don’t really matter much. 

Generally, people accept the religion they inherited from their parents. (click to enlarge)

We see similar regional affiliation in the states in the United States.

There is tremendous intellectual and emotional inertia that prevents people from accepting new ideas and beliefs. Otherwise, religious affiliation would be more evenly distributed around the world and throughout the United States.

The foundation of missionary work is the idea that people can and will change their minds when presented with new information. But as every missionary knows, such people are an exception to the rule. 

Missionaries seek people who have an open mind and are willing to listen to new information and a version of reality that differs from what they have known. 

As President Nelson put it, missionaries seek people who are engaged learners instead of lazy learners.

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We should ask, how do we as Latter-day Saints apply the counsel to become engaged learners instead of lazy learners?

The Gospel is a seamless web of interconnected ideas, information, doctrine, history, and practice. Some things matter to some people more than other things, and each person is different. We prioritize among them according to our individual needs and interests.

Most Latter-day Saints accept the premise that the Book of Mormon is the keystone of our religion. Some accept the Book of Mormon entirely on faith, whether because they inherited that belief from their families or because they had a spiritual witness that convinced them. 

Of course, most people in most religions share similar convictions about their respective beliefs. They, too, inherited their beliefs and have had spiritual experiences that affirm their beliefs. 

People of all religious beliefs generally accept their beliefs. Some wonder why others don’t have the same beliefs and spiritual experiences they do. Others question their beliefs and seek alternatives. People convert from and to a variety of beliefs for many different reasons.

Preach My Gospel explains that “The Book of Mormon, combined with the Spirit, is your most powerful resource in conversion…. the first question someone should answer is whether Joseph Smith was a prophet, and he or she can answer this question by reading and praying about the Book of Mormon.” https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/preach-my-gospel-a-guide-to-missionary-service/what-is-the-role-of-the-book-of-mormon?lang=eng

Some Latter-day Saints accept the Book of Mormon because of the power of its teachings. Again, that’s the same basis upon which people of all religions accept their respective religious texts; i.e., they recognize the power of the teachings of their texts.

The Book of Mormon differs from other religious texts, however, because it was written specifically to convince people that Jesus is the Christ. Its origin as an ancient record of a long-lost civilization distinguishes it from all other religious texts. Joseph Smith recognized this when he identified extrinsic evidence as “proof of its divine authenticity.”

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-emma-smith-4-june-1834/3 

For the vast majority of the world’s population, the Book of Mormon has not been convincing because asking them to trade one set of beliefs for another is a non-starter. SITH–the stone in the hat theory– creates another impediment by reframing the Book of Mormon as a revelation instead of a translation, akin to other religious texts.  

Many Latter-day Saints whose faith is inherited and/or based on spiritual confirmations also confirm or corroborate their faith by historical events. They accept the Book of Mormon because Joseph Smith said he translated it from an ancient record. They accept the teachings of the prophets about its historicity. They engage in learning about the evidence that corroborates the teachings of the prophets.

These Latter-day Saints consider the work of the scholars, but they don’t defer to the scholars without first considering the biases and agendas those scholars promote. 

That makes them engaged, instead of lazy, learners.

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Right now, BYU and CES students are being taught an interpretation of the Book of Mormon based on the M2C interpretation. These conceptual maps groom students to accept M2C as the only plausible setting for the Book of Mormon.

Look at how BYU justifies its map. [https://bom.byu.edu/]

The Church and BYU stay neutral in questions of exactly where the Book of Mormon took place. [One glance at the BYU and CES maps shows they are anything but neutral. They incorporate, and functionally canonize, the M2C interpretations of the text, including the hourglass shape and the declaration that Cumorah cannot be in New York. The only reason they don’t outright show Mesoamerica is because they’ve been told to remain “neutral,” but these scholars all accept M2C.] The Lord could have removed all questions regarding the exact locations of these events but he did not. [The scholars blame the Lord for not revealing these locations, but they have rejected the New York Cumorah. Pursuant to the principle of Alma 12:9, we can hardly expect more light when we’ve rejected the light we once had.] For that reason, our design team has chosen to develop an internal map that shows relational directions and approximate distances that match the approximately 550 geography descriptions in the text as closely as possible. [This is the message: following the text “as closely as possible” means embracing the M2C interpretation. But the maps also depict the Book of Mormon in a fictional setting.]

Naturally, the LDS scholars who have constructed these maps claim they rely on the best scholarship. But that only makes the problem worse.

These conceptual maps (which I call fantasy maps) teach students that the Book of Mormon does not fit any real-world location. 

Consequently, fewer and fewer students coming out of CES and BYU believe the Book of Mormon is an authentic history.

As Patrick Mason pointed out in his recent fireside in Logan, Utah, according to The Next Mormons, only 50% of Millennials still believe the Book of Mormon is a literal, historical account. (click to enlarge)

The percentage of those who believe it’s a literal history is declining over time. The trend is similar regarding other doctrines, but none of the other doctrines on this list involve external evidence. In fact, the other doctrines rely mainly on the divine authenticity of the Book of Mormon, as we saw from Preach My Gospel.

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Everyone who reads the Book of Mormon wants to refer to a map. But what message are we sending to the world if the “best” maps our scholars can produce are fictional fantasy lands?

I’ve pointed out the futility of constructing an “internal geography” based on the text of the Book of Mormon. Without a starting point, the generic geographical references in the text leave us with nothing but assumptions and speculation. The references are so vague that we can confirm any bias we want.

In an upcoming post, we’ll discuss the importance of a starting point.

For now, let’s look at the example of the term “narrow neck of land” which appears only in Ether 10:20. The terms could refer to any number of features. Some people infer it’s the same geographical feature as the “small neck of land” and the “narrow neck,” but why assume that different terms refer to the identical feature? 

In Joseph Smith’s day, Panama was often referred to as a “neck of land,” which explains why the Pratt brothers taught the hemispheric model (North America was the “land northward” and South America was the “land southward”). When he wrote the Wentworth letter, Joseph Smith deleted Orson Pratt’s hemispheric model, which never really made sense anyway. Few people noticed what Joseph did there and the hemispheric model persisted until it became untenable. Today, few Latter-day Saints believe Panama was the “narrow neck of land” of Ether 10:20, let alone the “small neck” or the “narrow neck.”

Despite rejecting the Panama scenario, our M2C scholars still teach that these three terms must apply to the same isthmus between two large land masses. Hence, the hourglass shape in the BYU and CES maps.

While an isthmus is one possible meaning of the term “neck of land,” other meanings also exist. As I pointed out in Between these HillsGeorge Washington, in a letter to Congress dated November 19, 1776, described his army’s precarious position between two rivers in New Jersey.

Yesterday morning a large body of the enemy landed between Dobbs’s ferry and Fort-Lee. Their object was, evidently, to enclose the whole of our troops and stores that lay between the North [now called the Hudson] and Hackinsac rivers, which form a very narrow neck of land

This “very narrow neck of land” between two rivers is not an isthmus. It ranges between 2 and 5 miles across. And yet, we have LDS scholars who still claim the Isthmus of Tehuantepec is a “narrow neck of land.”

William Hubbard, who wrote A narrative of the troubles with the Indians in New-England, published in Boston in 1677, used the term “neck of land” to refer to several of the peninsulas in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. 

On Friday July 15. Our Forces Marched for, and araived at Rekoboth where having no intelligence of the Enemy nearer then a great Swamp on Pocasset, eighteen miles from Taunton; they marched next day twelve miles to an House at Matapoiset (a small Neck of Land in the bottome of Taunton Bay, in the mid-way between Mount-hope and Pocasset Neck) from whence they marched for Taunton.

Warwick, a town near Providence seated upon a neck of land, environed by the sea, was all of it burned by the enemy at several times.

These are just a few of many such examples of how these terms have been used. Yet our M2C scholars, including the purveyors of the CES and BYU maps, don’t consider multiple working hypotheses for these terms. They still insist that these three terms all apply to the same isthmus between two large land masses.

It’s astonishing, really. 

But lazy learners can be persuaded to believe anything.

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Engaged learners will not be satisfied with what they’re told. They want to explore these issues in depth by studying the scriptures, the teachings of the prophets, Church history, and related evidence.

Instead of seeking evidence to repudiate the teachings of the prophets, they seek evidence to corroborate the teachings of the prophets.

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*M2C believers today frequently claim the living prophets (including apostles) no longer teach the New York Cumorah. I’m unaware of any living prophet who has taught anything about Cumorah, one way or another, let alone any who has repudiated the teachings of his predecessors about Cumorah. 

Given the success of the M2C citation cartel in using the academic cycle to impose M2C as the de facto consensus and the only acceptable interpretation of the text, by now it would be highly disruptive for Church leaders to reaffirm the teachings of their predecessors.  

Instead, the living prophets repeatedly encourage Church members to be “engaged learners” who study the scriptures, the teachings of the prophets, and authentic Church history. 

It’s up to us, as intelligent, faithful, informed Latter-day Saints, to reach our own conclusions. Although some of the M2C scholars claim they’ve been hired by the prophets to guide us in these matters, Church leaders have always taught that it is our responsibility to seek the truth. We cannot delegate this responsibility to the credentialed class, no matter how much the intellectuals want and even expect us to.

Source: About Central America