Equally yoked together

Yesterday we had a wonderful missionary training webinar. One of the topics was Elder Boyd K. Packer’s famous talk about teamwork and being equally yoked together.

The Church posted a video version of the talk here:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2013-10-1111-equally-yoked-together?lang=eng

It is well worth watching and pondering. 

In thinking about being equally yoked together, we remember what Elder Quentin L. Cook taught a year ago.

With our all-inclusive doctrine, we can be an oasis of unity and celebrate diversity. Unity and diversity are not opposites. We can achieve greater unity as we foster an atmosphere of inclusion and respect for diversity. 

(2020, October, Quentin L. Cook, ‘Hearts Knit in Righteousness and Unity,’ General Conference, November 2020, ¶ 22)

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On this blog, we discuss not education per se, but the factual, rational, and doctrinal background for what is being taught.

There are obvious differences of opinion about Church history and Book of Mormon historicity. Some Latter-day Saints still believe what Joseph and Oliver taught about the translation and the New York Cumorah. Others do not.

Yet there is no reason for these differences of opinion to leave us unequally yoked.

According to the Gospel Topics entry on Book of Mormon Geography, the Church has no position on geography issues. That is an explicit declaration that no theories are, or should be, favored over others.

Yet the dominant LDS intellectuals consistently and persistently defy the Church’s statement. Instead, they exclude faithful interpretations of the facts that contradict their preferred M2C and SITH theories.

Everyone in the Church would benefit by being equally yoked and working together. 

If you work for, follow, or donate to any of the M2C citation cartel,* or know someone who does, let the M2C and SITH promoters know that whether or not you agree with their views, you want them to recognize and accommodate alternative faithful perspectives.

Every Latter-day Saint who is an engaged learner deserves to make informed decisions about these issues. Being informed starts with knowing the facts, but just as important, they need to know about alternative working hypotheses.

Especially the ones the M2C citation cartel censors.

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* The M2C citation cartel includes Book of Mormon Central and its owner, BMAF.org, FairLatterdaysaints, the Interpreter Foundation, BYU Studies, Meridian Magazine, etc.  

Source: Book of Mormon Concensus

JS letter to OC, Oct 1829, and visiting with M2C/SITH scholars

The earliest extant sample of Joseph Smith’s writing is a letter he wrote to Oliver Cowdery in October 1829. It includes this wonderful passage:

the people are all friendly to <​us​> except a few who are in opposition to evry thing unless it is something that is axactly like themselves

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-oliver-cowdery-22-october-1829/1

The passage reminds me of what it is like when I visit with M2C/SITH scholars. [BTW, if you’re reading this post on Amazon, moronisamerica.com, or another site, you’re missing the additional resources, including explanations of acronyms, on the original blog, here: 

http://www.bookofmormoncentralamerica.com/]

We all love our critics, but it’s sad to see how they still resist new ideas–especially new faithful ideas. After all, their education was supposed to give them confidence and competence instead of defensiveness and intransigence. 

Serious scholars would readily and happily spell out all the facts and then compare multiple working hypotheses. But our M2C/SITH scholars continue to refuse to do that. Within the last month I met with several of them and the answer is still the same: no. 

They are obsessed with trying to persuade people to agree with their theories. The last thing they want is for Latter-day Saints to make fully informed decisions.

It’s the same with CES Letter, John Dehlin, and other critics. They delude their followers by pretending to seek “the truth” when in reality they share the approach of our M2C/SITH scholars; i.e., they support their personal theories with selective quotations and logical and factual fallacies instead of putting out all the evidence and showing multiple working hypotheses so fully informed people can make good decisions.

Both sides rely on lazy learners who defer to their respective “expertise.”

I prefer the approach President Nelson encourages. “Good inspiration is based upon good information.” 

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The October 1829 letter obviously contradicts Emma’s famous claim that Joseph couldn’t write or dictate a letter (unless he attended an intense writing school during July-Sept 1829 when he was arranging the publication of the Book of Mormon).

The source note explains that this is a copy of the original letter, so it isn’t necessarily an exact copy of Joseph’s spelling. “JS, Letter, Harmony Township, Susquehanna Co., PA, to Oliver Cowdery, [Palmyra Township, NY], 22 Oct. 1829. Featured version copied [between ca. 27 Nov. 1832 and ca. Jan. 1833] in JS Letterbook 1, p. 9; handwriting of Frederick G. Williams; JS Collection, CHL.”

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The letter also contains considerable non-biblical, non-Book of Mormon terminology and phrasing, another indication of the sources of Joseph’s lexicon. I agree with those who still believe Joseph Smith translated the engravings on the plates “after the manner of his language.”  

I’ve annotated the letter here:

https://www.mobom.org/annotated-js-letter-to-oc 


Source: About Central America

Midnight Mormons, Heartland, and the M2C citation cartel

Yesterday, Midnight Mormons discussed the Heartland theory of Book of Mormon geography/historicity.

https://youtu.be/KU3yaQEDhIE?t=420

The Midnight Mormons are good guys, trying to do something positive. We respect that. But they don’t live up to their motto, as described on twitter:

We aren’t apologists, we are radio hosts who call out B.S. when we see it.

You can’t call out B.S. from a position of ignorance. 

They need to up their game, because everyone can see that CESLetter and John Dehlin are lapping Midnight Mormons (and the M2C citation cartel*) when it comes to informed discussions of Church history, Book of Mormon historicity, and other issues. That explains the disparity in views and subscribers, not to mention outcomes. 

Faithful Latter-day Saints should be the best-informed people in the world on these issues, but that’s impossible if they rely on the M2C citation cartel for their information. 

To his credit, at least Kwaku has a somewhat open mind and has looked into a few things. He explained that his M2C bias comes from his friends. The other two, not so much. 

Cardon Ellis asked “what was the narrow neck of land that shows up in like 20 different books.” (Actually, it shows up only once, in Ether 10:20**). 

Brad Witbeck admitted he’s not “super familiar” with the issues (as if that’s a feature, not a bug) and yet he acted as the authority on the show, spouting the talking points he’s learned from FairLatterdaysaints and the rest of the M2C citation cartel.

Before Midnight Mormons discuss the Book of Mormon, they need to graduate from elementary Letter VII school. They can start here:

http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90

Then they can attend Cumorah school, starting here:

http://www.lettervii.com/p/byu-packet-on-cumorah.html

Naturally, they’ll consult their friends at Book of Mormon Central, FairLatterdaysaints, the Interpreter, and the rest of the M2C citation cartel. We’ll save them some time, because the cartel has one answer:

Midnight Mormons’ display of ignorance was shocking, but not surprising. The Midnight Mormons are victims of the M2C citation cartel that uses “disinformation by omission” to keep their readers, students, followers, and donors in ignorance. Midnight Mormons trotted out all the superficial caricatures that the M2C citation cartel has imprinted on the minds of their followers. 

Take Book of Mormon Central as an example. They continue to promote M2C as the only acceptable interpretation of the Book of Mormon. They expressly repudiate the teachings of the prophets about the New York Cumorah, to the point where Midnight Mormons don’t even mention Cumorah, which is the key the prophets have given to understand the setting of the Book of Mormon.

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This should be a wake-up call for anyone who still doesn’t understand what is happening to the younger generations of the Church.

Thanks to the M2C citation cartel, they are dwindling in unbelief and ignorance. 

Or, as Paul explained, they are “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” (2 Timothy 3:7) Watch the way Midnight Mormons stumbled through various speculation about geography, focusing on the “narrow neck” and “snow” instead of the core Cumorah issue.

Let’s liken the scriptures unto us, starting with Mosiah 26:1-2.

1 Now it came to pass that there were many of the rising generation that could not understand the words of Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, their contemporaries and successors, being little children at the time they spake unto their people; and they did not believe the tradition of their fathers.

 2 They did not believe what had been said concerning the New York Cumorah, neither did they believe concerning the translation of the Book of Mormon from the plates with the Urim and Thummim.

Those of us who are “seasoned” members of the Church are still familiar with the teachings of the prophets about Cumorah. They were in our Institute and Seminary manuals. We learned Church history before the New York Cumorah was “de-correlated” by the Saints book. We still read the original documents in the Joseph Smith Papers so we can see how the Saints book promoted a specific agenda instead of accurately representing what historical figures actually thought.

The M2C citation cartel has managed to create a situation in which faithful Latter-day Saints who want to know what the prophets have taught about Cumorah turn to critics of the Church such as CES Letter and MormonStories.
That should change. Immediately.
Midnight Mormons should help educate the “rising generation” instead of encouraging ignorance.

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*M2C = Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory, which teaches that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled everyone about the New York Cumorah until modern LDS scholars figured out that the “real” Cumorah of Mormon 6:6 is somewhere in southern Mexico.

**The “narrow neck of land” in Ether 10:20 is a reference from a different civilization and different time than the Nephite references to a different “small neck” and a “narrow neck” which, because it didn’t mention land, was likely a waterway. M2C scholars conflate the three features to make their geography work. Common usage of the term “narrow neck” by early Americans, including George Washington, show that the term can apply to any number of ordinary geographical features.  

Source: About Central America

Lesson/fireside outline with references

Lesson/fireside material

Readers often ask for help in sharing/presenting the information about the Hill Cumorah. Here is some material you can use.

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Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery explain the Hill Cumorah
Purpose
To help class members understand what Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery taught about the Hill Cumorah and how that helps readers understand the Book of Mormon and early Church history

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Scriptures and references: 
– D&C 9 & 10; 128:20
– Book of Mormon Title Page
– Mormon 6:6
– Joseph Smith-History 1:71
– Letter VII, in Joseph Smith, History, 1834-1836, online at http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/83, in print: Joseph Smith Papers, Histories Volume 1, p. 72.
– David Whitmer interview, Joseph F. Smith and Orson Pratt, report to President John Taylor and Council of the Twelve, September 17, 1878, online here: http://jared.pratt-family.org/report-of-elders-orson-pratt-and-joseph-f-smith.html
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Discussion questions at the beginning of class.
How many class members have visited the Hill Cumorah? How long ago? What did you observe?

Why do we visit the Hill Cumorah. What happened there?
Responses will include: Joseph found the plates there, Moroni visited Joseph there, Joseph returned to the hill annually for four years before getting the plates, etc. Some may say the final battles of the Nephites and Jaredites were there, while others may disagree, saying those battles were in Central America or Mesoamerica. Some may say Mormon’s repository of Nephite records (Mormon 6:6) was there, while others may disagree.
The purpose of the lesson is not to debate questions about geography, but to educate people about (i) what the prophets and apostles have taught (ii) what extrinsic evidence there is to support those teachings, and (iii) how the Book of Mormon covenants relate to the promised land.
Emphasize that the Church currently has no official position on Book of Mormon geography and therefore each person is free to believe whatever he/she wants to believe on that topic.
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What do we know about Cumorah?
From the scriptures:
Mormon 6:6 (the “last struggle” of the Nephites took place there; Mormon “his up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted” to him)
Mormon 6:11-12 (20,000 Nephites died at Cumorah. Note that verses 13-15 refer to Nephites who had died earlier in the wars leading up to the final battles at Cumorah, such as Mormon 4:11.)
Mormon 8:2-2 (Moroni was the lone survivor of the final Nephite battle at Cumorah)
Ether 15:11 (Ramah was the Jaredite name for Cumorah. Explain that fewer than 10,000 Jaredites died at Cumorah. See my post here for the explanation: http://www.lettervii.com/2017/07/more-about-cumorahs-casualties.html)
From Church history:
The first night he came in 1823, Moroni told Joseph Smith that the record of the Nephites was “written and deposited” not far from his home. Letter IV, Joseph Smith, History, 1834-1836, http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/69
That night Moroni also identified the hill where the plates were deposited as Cumorah.
Joseph visited the site on the hill annually. In early 1827, when Joseph was returning home after an errand in Manchester, he passed by the hill Cumorah. Moroni stopped him and chastised him for not being diligent, telling him the time was near when he would get the plates.
In September 1827, Joseph obtained the plates.
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What happened after Joseph obtained the plates?
Joseph took them home, but a few months later, Joseph and Emma moved to Harmony, PA.
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What was on the plates?
The Title Page, which Joseph translated in Harmony before moving to Fayette, explains what the book contains. The Title Page was “a literal translation, taken from the vert last leaf, on the left hand side of the collection or book of plates.” http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-15-october-1842/1
[Read the Title Page] 

According to the Title Page, the record consisted of:
(i) an abridgment of the record of the Nephites, 
(ii) an abridgment of the record of the people of Jared.
(iii) original material by Moroni (sealed by Moroni)
Notice, no original plates are mentioned; i.e., the plates of Nephi were not included in the plates Joseph obtained from Moroni’s stone box in the Hill Cumorah. (We call these the Harmony plates.)
In Harmony, Joseph first translated the Book of Lehi. This was the 116 pages that Martin Harris lost. 
When Oliver Cowdery arrived in April 1829, Joseph began translating the Book of Mosiah. They finished with the Book of Moroni and the Title Page at the end of May.
There’s a helpful timeline of the translation here: https://mi.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Willes-Lecture-Program-small-1.pdf
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Why didn’t Joseph re-translate the Book of Lehi?
When Oliver Cowdery tried and failed to translate, he continued writing for Joseph. The Lord told him “I would that ye should continue until you have finished this record, which I have entrusted unto him. And then, behold, other records have I, that I will give unto you power that you may assist to translate.” D&C 9:1-2
“This record” refers to the record Joseph and Oliver were working on; i.e., the Harmony plates that Joseph obtained from Moroni’s box, described by the Title Page.
What are the “other records” to which the Lord referred?
D&C 10 tells us. The section starts by explaining to Joseph that the people who stole the 116 pages would change the words and publish them if Joseph re-translated that part of the plates. Instead of re-translating the Book of Lehi, Joseph would have to translate the “plates of Nephi.”
38 And now, verily I say unto you, that an account of those things that you have written, which have gone out of your hands [the Book of Lehi on the 116 pages], is engraven upon the plates of Nephi; [except Joseph didn’t have the plates of Nephi yet]
39 Yea, and you remember it was said in those writings [the 116 pages] that a more particular account was given of these things upon the plates of Nephi.
40 And now, because the account which is engraven upon the plates of Nephi is more particular concerning the things which, in my wisdom, I would bring to the knowledge of the people in this account—
41 Therefore, you shall translate the engravings which are on the plates of Nephi, down even till you come to the reign of king Benjamin, or until you come to that which you have translated, which you have retained; [Joseph apparently retained some of the translation he did with Martin Harris, which we refer to as page 117, and this is probably Words of Mormon 1:13-18. Verse 12 appears to be Joseph Smith’s bridge between the plates of Nephi (with Mormon’s sealing in verses 1-11) and the part he retained (page 117).]
42 And behold, you shall publish it as the record of Nephi; and thus I will confound those who have altered my words.
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How did Joseph get the plates of Nephi?
Before leaving Harmony, Joseph gave the Harmony plates to a divine messenger. David Whitmer came from Fayette to pick up Joseph and Oliver. During the trip to Fayette, they encountered a man on the road who greeted them. David offered him a ride to Fayette but the man declined, saying he was going to Cumorah. David did not know what Cumorah was. He asked Joseph. Joseph explained that was the messenger with the plates.
[See the report of Joseph F. Smith for one of several accounts of this event.]
After Joseph arrived in Fayette, the messenger delivered the plates. Joseph translated them as 1 Nephi through Words of Mormon 1:11.
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How do we know the Hill Cumorah is in New York?
Joseph’s mother reported that the Angel Moroni referred to the hill as Cumorah even before Joseph obtained the plates, as mentioned in the first section above.
In 1834-5, Oliver Cowdery wrote a series of eight historical letters that were published in the official Church newspaper, the Messenger and Advocate, in Kirtland, Ohio. Portions of Letter I are included in the Pearl of Great Price as a footnote to Joseph Smith History 1:71. Joseph had his scribes (starting with Frederick G. Williams, Second Counselor in the First Presidency) copy the letters into his history as part of his life story. 
Letter VII focuses specifically on the Hill Cumorah. When he wrote it, Oliver was Assistant President of the Church, a calling that includes acting as spokesman. 
In Letter VII, Oliver described the hill this way:
At about one mile west [of the hill Cumorah] rises another ridge of less height, running parallel with the former, leaving a beautiful vale between. The soil is of the first quality for the country, and under a state of cultivation, which gives a prospect at once imposing, when one reflects on the fact, that here, between these hills, the entire power and national strength of both the Jaredites and Nephites were destroyed.

By turning to the 529th and 530th pages of the book of Mormon [Mormon 6] you will read Mormon’s account of the last great struggle of his people, as they were encamped round this hill Cumorah….

[Mormon] deposited, as he says, on the 529th page, all the records in this same hill…

This hill, by the Jaredites, was called Ramah: by it, or around it pitched the famous army of Coriantumr their tents.
Coriantumr was the last king of the Jaredites The opposing army were to the west, and in this same vally, and near by, from day to day, did that mighty race spill their blood, in wrath, contending, as it were, brother against brother, and father, against son. In this same spot, in full view from the top of this same hill, one may gaze with astonishment upon the ground which was twice covered with the dead and dying of our fellow men.

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How would Oliver know that the hill where Joseph obtained the plates was the actual Hill Cumorah from the Book of Mormon?
1. Oliver was with David Whitmer when the messenger who had the Harmony plates said he was going to Cumorah.
2. Oliver visited the hill: “It was at the second mentioned place where the record was found to be deposited, on the west side of the hill, not far from the top down its side; and when myself visited the place in the year 1830, there were several trees standing: enough to cause a shade in summer, but not so much as to prevent the surface being covered with grass—which was also the case when the record was first found.” Letter VIII.
3. On multiple occasions, Oliver actually entered the depository of Nephite records. Brigham Young and others explained this. [Brigham’s comments are here:
4. Oliver worked closely with Joseph Smith from the time he met him in April 1829. He kept a notebook of what Joseph told him. Joseph approved of Letter VII on multiple occasions, showing he considered it valid. 
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What have the prophets and apostles said about Letter VII and the New York Cumorah?
Several of the original Quorum of the Twelve republished Letter VII and/or taught that the Hill Cumorah was in New York, including Parley P. and Orson Pratt, William Smith, Brigham Young, and Heber C. Kimball. Subsequent prophets and apostles, including Joseph F. Smith, Joseph Fielding Smith, Anthony W. Ivins, LeGrand Richards, Marion G. Romney, and Mark E. Petersen, have affirmed that the Hill Cumorah is in New York. No prophet or apostle has said Cumorah is anywhere else.
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Why would Moroni put the plates in a stone box instead of inside his father’s depository?
Orson Pratt explained that there were two departments in the hill.

When Joseph Smith first went to see the plates, he was tempted by the wealth they represented. He knew he could not sell the plates, but he hoped to find other artifacts he could sell. The gold in the plates was worth about $1 million in today’s dollars, and an equivalent value in Joseph’s day. It took four years of diligent patience for him to overcome that temptation. 
Had Moroni led him to the depository instead, it seems unlikely that Joseph could have withstood the temptation. It was only after he had translated the Harmony plates that he realized Mormon’s depository was in the same hill; after all, he had only translated Mormon 6:6 a few days before. Later, he had enough experience with revelation that he was able to resist the temptation when he and Oliver entered the depository and saw all the artifacts.
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Why is this important to know?
There is a lot of confusion about Book of Mormon geography. So far, the Lord has not revealed the details to us, but the prophets and apostles, starting with Joseph and Oliver, unambiguously gave us the one pin in the map: Cumorah is in New York.
This helps us understand the prophecies and promises in the Book of Mormon relating to the promised land and the obligation for its occupants to (i) keep the commandments and (ii) take the Gospel to the world. 

Source: Letter VII

More disinformation from the Interpreter

For years, I’ve been advocating an approach to Church history and Book of Mormon historicity that focuses on established facts accompanied by multiple working hypotheses (interpretations) of those facts. This is a normal, expected academic/scientific approach to any topic. It leads to truth because everyone can see the facts for themselves and then follow the logic and assumptions of the alternative hypotheses. People can reach different conclusions, but at least everyone is making informed decisions.

To date, our M2C scholars and their citation cartel (Book of Mormon Central, FairLatterdaySaints, the Interpreter, BYU Studies, Meridian Magazine, etc.) have refused to agree with this approach. 

Instead, they deliberately keep their students and their followers (and donors) uninformed, misinformed, and disinformed. 

They don’t want Latter-day Saints to even know what the prophets have taught about the New York Cumorah, let alone know about the extrinsic evidence that corroborates and supports what the prophets have taught. 

These scholars have invested their careers into M2C, and they fear most Latter-day Saints would reject M2C if they knew all the facts and compared M2C to the alternatives that vindicate the teachings of the prophets. 

IOW, they don’t trust Latter-day Saints to make informed decisions because they know most informed Latter-day Saints would reject M2C.

It’s a self-defeating approach because, thanks to the de-correlation of the New York Cumorah, more and more Latter-day Saints (and prospective Latter-day Saints) are learning what the prophets have taught from critical sources who frame the issue in a negative way that, as Joseph Fielding Smith predicted, causes members to “become confused and disturbed in their faith.”

It would be far healthier and productive for Latter-day Saints to learn in Church and CES/BYU materials what the prophets have taught about the New York Cumorah. Back when the Church was growing rapidly, Seminary and Institute manuals did still teach what the prophets have taught.

Nevertheless, our M2C scholars persist in censoring the New York Cumorah. I’ve pointed out many examples of how the M2C citation cartel does this. Today we’ll look at another one published recently in the Interpreter.

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Readers here will not be surprised to learn that the Interpreter continues to publish disinformation about Book of Mormon historicity/geography issues. I discussed a recent example here:

https://interpreterpeerreviews.blogspot.com/2021/10/the-bayesian-series-based-on-ignorance.html

Next week, we’ll look at another example from the 2021 Joseph Smith Papers Conference.

When M2C scholars resort to disinformation to maintain the illusion that M2C makes sense, they expose their own insecurity.

The graphic below explains that the difference between misinformation and disinformation is a matter of intention. (click to enlarge).

https://www.maltego.com/blog/infographic-misinformation-and-disinformation/

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The Interpreter article is part of a series of articles that purport to use sophisticated statistical analysis to support the Book of Mormon as an ancient text. It’s a transparent exercise in confirmation bias, which is fine; people enjoy having their biases confirmed, regardless of the validity of the argument. 
This article focuses on the resolution of alleged anachronisms in the text, which is also fine.
The disinformation arises from the article’s gratuitous and deceitful claim that a geography model based on what Joseph and Oliver taught about the New York Cumorah does not resolve the alleged anachronisms in the text. 
At first glance, readers might assume the claim was based on excusable (but regrettable) ignorance; i.e., misinformation. After all, anyone who relies on the Interpreter for information about Church history and Book of Mormon historicity gets a steady diet of biased disinformation about the New York Cumorah and related topics.
But because the claim is one of the major premises of the article, and because the author purports to be objective and fact-based, it’s difficult to excuse the errors on mere mistake.  
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Here’s an excerpt from my analysis of the Interpreter article, which refers to another article about anachronisms.

The article lists criticisms of the Book of Mormon based on alleged anachronisms, starting with those in Mormonism Unvailed. However, the anachronisms were a bit of a red herring. Even in the 1830s, people knew the Bible contained anachronisms (e.g., candles instead of lamps), but anachronisms that arise from translation are understandable, even expected. Translators use their own lexicon and culture to translate; otherwise, their work wouldn’t be a translation. Anachronisms didn’t prove the Bible was false.

The overriding objection to the Book of Mormon was that it was not a translation.

Which, perversely, is what LDS scholars are trying to prove today! 

Source: About Central America

Inspiration for Dune and M2C

I didn’t realize that Frank Herbert was inspired to write Dune after visiting the sand dunes on the Oregon coast near where I live. 

We’ve been there many times.

How ‘Dune’ was inspired by the Oregon coast, at the beautiful Oregon Dunes (msn.com)

Because while the world imagined in classic sci-fi novel “Dune” may be entirely alien, Pacific Northwest author Frank Herbert first dreamed it up on a visit to the Oregon Dunes just outside Florence.

Coincidentally, some of the Book of Mormon videos were filmed along the Oregon coast as well.

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Although there are still some Latter-day Saints who believe what the prophets have taught about the New York Cumorah, most Latter-day Saints have been taught to repudiate those teachings in favor of the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory (M2C), which claims the “real Cumorah” is somewhere in southern Mexico.

Just as Frank Herbert imagined an entire dune world based on his visit to the Oregon dunes, our friends who promote M2C have imagined an entire setting for the Book of Mormon in Mesoamerica, based on the ideas of L.E. Hills whose 1917 map generated the M2C theory.

Ever since, they’ve been reinterpreting the text of the Book of Mormon to conform to whatever discoveries are made about Mayan culture in Mesoamerica

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More recently, CES and BYU teachers have taught an even more fanciful setting for the Book of Mormon. 

Source: About Central America

The simple story of Cumorah (with links)

President Nelson has taught that “good inspiration is based upon good information.” A corollary is, “informed decisions are based upon good information.” 

People can believe whatever they want, but Latter-day Saints owe it to themselves to seek good information before seeking inspiration and before making decisions. And as all have not faith, seek ye diligently and teach one another words of wisdom; yea, seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom; seek learning, even by study and also by faith. (Doctrine and Covenants 88:118)

Unfortunately, few Latter-day Saints have “good information” about the Cumorah issue. Instead, they are taught the philosophies of men; i.e., the theories of the M2C scholars who claim the prophets have been wrong about the New York Cumorah.

Here’s the simple story of Cumorah (with interactive links underlined). 

Ask around. Very few of your Latter-day Saint friends/family will even know about these specific references from Church history, mostly found in the Joseph Smith Papers.

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The Simple Story of Cumorah

When Moroni first visited Joseph Smith in September 1823, he “gave a history of the aborigines of this country” and “said this history was written and deposited not far from that place.” Moroni said the record is on a side hill on the Hill of Cumorah 3 miles from this place.” 

In 1827, months before he received the plates, Joseph told his parents about his encounter with “the angel of the Lord— as I passed by the hill of Cumorah, where the plates are, the angel of the Lord met me and said, that I had not been engaged enough in the work of the Lord.

In 1829, after translating the abridged plates in Harmony, PA, Joseph gave them to a divine messenger. David Whitmer picked up Joseph and Oliver to take them to Fayette. Along the way, the group met the messenger who had the plates. David offered him a ride to Fayette but he said, “‘No, I am going to Cumorah.’ This name was something new to me [David], I did not know what Cumorah meant.” Joseph explained the messenger was one of the Nephites.

In 1830, during the mission to the Lamanites (D&C 28, 30 and 32), Parley P. Pratt recorded what Oliver Cowdery taught. “This Book, which contained these things, was hid in the earth by Moroni, in a hill called by him, Cumorah, which hill is now in the State of New York, near the village of Palmyra, in Ontario County.

In 1834, the book Mormonism Unvailed claimed the Book of Mormon was based on a novel by Solomon Spalding. In response, Oliver Cowdery wrote a series of essays about Church history, focusing on facts to refute the false allegations in Mormonism Unvailed. As Assistant President of the Church and designated spokesman for Joseph Smith, Oliver explained the facts about the New York Cumorah in Letter VII. After describing the hill, Oliver wrote, “At about one mile west rises another ridge of less height, running parallel with the former, leaving a beautiful vale between. The soil is of the first quality for the country, and under a state of cultivation, which gives a prospect at once imposing, when one reflects on the fact, that here, between these hills, the entire power and national strength of both the Jaredites and Nephites were destroyed.”

The New York Cumorah was accepted and taught consistently by Joseph’s contemporaries and successors and has never been repudiated, except by a handful of influential scholars who invented and perpetrated the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory (M2C). 

M2C originated with RLDS scholar L.E. Hills, whose map of a “limited geography” in Mesoamerica put Cumorah in southern Mexico because New York was “too far” away to make his interpretation work. 

Modern M2C scholars, including those at BYU and in CES, accept that reasoning. They justify their repudiation of the teachings of the prophets by claiming the prophets were merely speculating and misled the Church. 

Now, we have BYU and CES explicitly teaching their students that the prophets were wrong about Cumorah. 

Tragically, the New York Cumorah is consistent with the descriptions in the text and is corroborated by archaeology, anthropology, etc. 

But most Latter-day Saints don’t know this because the M2C scholars and their followers have indoctrinated generations of Latter-day Saints to believe their M2C theory instead.

Fortunately, as more Latter-day Saints become educated, they are able to make informed decisions and seek inspiration based upon good information.

Source: Letter VII

Getting offended

Some of our M2C* and SITH** friends continue to get offended when we discuss the topics of Book of Mormon historicity and translation from a faithful perspective that supports and corroborates the teachings of Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, their contemporaries and successors, all of whom taught the New York Cumorah and the translation of the plates with the Nephite interpreters. 

Getting offended is an emotional approach that obscures and prevents rational analysis of facts, scriptures, teachings of the prophets, etc. It’s far more productive to share views and information and let people make their own informed decisions.

Offended people get defensive and resort to logical and factual fallacies. 

We see frequent examples on the web sites of Fairlatterdaysaints, CESLetter, the InterpreterFoundation, mormonstories, and everyone else who accepts M2C and SITH. 

None of these organizations want people to make informed decisions. They all keep people focused on their M2C and SITH narratives because they know that once people understand there are alternatives, they will no longer depend on these organizations to tell them what to think.

Naval explained why people get offended when they confront alternatives to their worldview.

“You’re offended when you fear that it might be true.”

@naval
_____* M2C = Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory that Joseph and Oliver misled everyone about the Hill Cumorah in New York.**SITH = stone-in-the-hat theory that Joseph and Oliver misled everyone because Joseph never really translated the plates and didn’t use the Nephite interpreters

Source: About Central America